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April 12, 2008

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Robert,

Can you e-mail me? I'd like to ask you to write something brief on my blog; I'm asking a number of pastors to write in and I'll e-mail you the details.

Blessings,

Scot

Greg Laughery's response is a poor attempt to counter the impression given in the many quotes in the CT article by him and others at Swiss L'Abri, in which the present leadership's disdain, arrogance and contempt about Francis Schaeffer's ideas, insights and teachings come to light. What the CT article presents is nothing new to us. We are glad it has now been made public, that Swiss L'Abri has practiced for years a shift away from Schaeffer's basic Christian view of life. Inerrancy of scripture is after all not a minor point, neither is the eternal divinity of Jesus. Both need to be discussed and explored at all times, but now they are openly denied by those who teach there. They refute the core of Schaeffer's original purpose for going to Europe to warn people about Christian existentilism in the mantle of Neo-Orthodoxy.

Failure on the part of the other branches of the work to stand against that shift makes them all responsible as well.

This is not a question about people being, or not, helped at L'Abri or how many find things for their life there. What matters is that the work is "Not your Fataher's L'Abri" anymore. People should know that and stop supporting the work or sending friends and family members to what is, by their own admission, a fraud in advertisement. It is "Not your Father's L'Abri."

The Francis A Schaeffer Foundation would like to state that we are grateful for the article in Christianity Today, declaring that L’Abri today is “Not Your Father’s L’Abri”.

We would urge people to read or reread Francis Schaeffer’s books to allow him to speak for himself and thus rediscover his own stated views in context.

Udo W Middelmann
Debroah Middelmann
Greg Grooms, The Hill House, Austin, TX
Marvin Padgett, Wheaton, Il
Pierre Berthoud, Dean,
Free Faculty of Theology, Aix-en-Provence

Hi all,
I would like to respond to Udo Middleman's post above mine. I must say, I was extremely disappointed, and angered, when I read the response just last night.

I am currently at Swiss L'Abri in the role of a helper. I was here two years ago as a student for Winter Term 2006. I came as a confused young Christian, on the verge of relegating myself to agnosticism when I arrived. Through my three months here at L'Abri, with Greg Laughery (whose article is above) as my tutor, I worked through a lot of issues, including personal identity in Christ and the inerrancy of Scripture.

"Greg Laughery's response is a poor attempt to counter the impression given in the many quotes in the CT article by him and others at Swiss L'Abri, in which the present leadership's disdain, arrogance and contempt about Francis Schaeffer's ideas, insights and teachings come to light. What the CT article presents is nothing new to us. We are glad it has now been made public, that Swiss L'Abri has practiced for years a shift away from Schaeffer's basic Christian view of life. Inerrancy of scripture is after all not a minor point, neither is the eternal divinity of Jesus. Both need to be discussed and explored at all times, but now they are openly denied by those who teach there."
This paragraph written by Mr. Middleman could not be further from the truth. As I understand it, from talking to workers and members of Schaeffer's legacy, Mr. Middleman has not been to Swiss L'Abri in about 20 years, though he lives right up the road in Gryon. So I would caution anyone to take his view on the current state of Swiss L'Abri, and its theology and worldview, with more than one grain of salt.

The current staff here at Swiss L'Abri by no means has "disdain, arrogance and contempt about Francis Schaeffer's ideas, insights and teachings..." If anything, they affirm many of Schaeffer's ideas, but they are also not afraid to look critically at his writings as well (which I think we should all do as responsible readers and knowers). Tell me, if my tutor expressed "disdain, arrogance, and contempt" over Schaeffer's ideas and books, why would he have led a small-group seminar about True Spirituality, and also encouraged me to PERSONALLY read "True Spirituality", "He is there and he is not silent", and "The God Who Is There"?

I want to affirm Mr. Middleman's statement that this is "Not Your Father's L'Abri." But, my question is, "Should it be?" My father was here as a student in 1976. The questions being asked in 1976, and the years before, were more existential and philosophical questions about such things as the nature of evil, the existence of God, etc. Now the questions of my generation are more along the lines of the church, a Christian worldview, and much cynicism about Christianity is faced and dealt with as well. If L'Abri was unable to change to deal with the questions of the day, I would wager that its purpose would be defunct and the community should die. HOWEVER, that is not the case! I think, and many others whom I have talked with would agree, that Francis Schaeffer himself would have been gravely disappointed if L'Abri were not able to change and deal with the culture, while still keeping to the core values of hospitality, love, and a Biblical Christian worldview (which it has).

Thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
John Doherty

One is saddened when brethren do not dwell together in unity.
The unanswerd fundamental question is simple. Does L'Abri today teach the same doctrine of Scripture as its founder did?

Robert,
We've been otherwise engaged so we wanted to listen to the first two sermons on Rom. 8:28 on the web. I encourage you to continue to work with the word "all". I'm especially pleased that you cited Col. 1:15ff. There are numerous passages and the whole of scripture that can lead our culture into the Kingdom of God. Of course we would have to abandon all that has led to the elitism so rampant in our culture, though it has taken a hit lately, and in our churches. To say "I don't know" took a great deal of courage when you spoke to the woman who shared her story. I hear these stories every week and know something about the lost and our propensity to hurt ourselves and others. By proclaiming God's love for her you gave her a chance to be blessed by God. If each of us surrenders our will and our lives to God, we are in the present with and in God it seems to me. If we try to drag into that present reality all our resentments and plans for making things right, we miss God. We look forward to hearing you today in person for the next installment on God's Kingdom and majesty.

Hi Graham,
I am not in the position to comment about "Does L'Abri today teach the same doctrine of Scripture as its founder did?"
I'm pretty sure Schaeffer was a Presbyterian minister before his crisis of faith, out of which came the ministry of L'Abri.
I think I can assure you, however, that L'Abri has not wavered in it's commitment to the authority of Scripture, the importance of community, Schaeffer's apologetic approach to human beings, and other fundamental principles central to L'Abri.
I can affirm that the workers are committed to the authority of Scripture and accept and affirm all that the Scriptures teach. They would also stress the importance of reading Scripture in context.

I do not think L'Abri has wavered from the founding principles. Others, such as Mr. Middelmann, apparently think that it has. But I'm confident that others who are currently associated with L'Abri would affirm what I have affirmed here.

How can we certain that it was actually Mr. Middlemen who posted on this blog? It's seems a little unbelievable that board of the Francis Schaeffer Foundation would post a brief comment on this blog to public state it's postion; no offense to the blog.

Nathan,
No offense taken but if you'd like certainty you could easily contact the Francis Shaeffer Foundation directly. Thanks for your visit.
robert

Hi Nathan -
I can vouch for the fact that it truly was Udo Middelmann who posted on here. He personally contacted me asking to meet last year when I was there close by in Switzerland (I was at L'Abri.)

Unfortunately our schedules never worked out.

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